pile on the headline risk not only coming out of europe, but also with the fiscal cliff negotiations. the bottom line is it's going to be very difficult to maneuver in tight spaces, so widen it out. for us that means in the s&p we want to pie 1340 to 1320, and as the market gets up to the 1430 area and above, we want to reduce our equity exposure. in the dow call it 12,5 to 13,5. in the nasdaq 100, 2400 to 2800. liz: okay, hold on. let me just hold on the s&p because that's what we have here. 1320 to 1340 buy in when it hits there, and can then, of course, sell. >> right. liz: so this requires real involvement on behalf of the investor, doesn't it? >> well, i -- the point is, liz, we, as i said, you've got a lot of headline risk, a lot of back and forth with the news stories. the point is to be disciplined. map those levels out, and then don't get caught in between. so i think if 1340 to 1320's a great place to add to your equity exposure, and then as we get up to the 1430 area and above, you want to reduce your equity exposure, and don't get caught in between. liz: sorry, i interrupt